Let’s Make This as Good as it Was Before

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@ThatOne9WPlen

who is this?

The name of that user will remain undisclosed.

@ThatOne9WPlen

i’m concerned

Please do not be concerned. This happened over two months ago, and the user has since been deleted. I assure you that safety, security, and privacy are our utmost priorities.

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@GBKarp - Thank you for sharing your opinions with us. Please allow me to reflect on your comments.

@GBKarp

I know the admins will want to close and unlist this topic as fast as possible, as well as ban me forever.

We (Admins and Moderators) never open a topic with the thought of “let’s suspend this user because of the topic’s connotation.” As a matter of fact, whether it seems that way or not, we do the opposite.

@GBKarp

In the demotion letter and in every contact following that, the admins treated me like a total stranger, being extremely aggressive and unwelcoming. I was treated like garbage, as if I hadn’t volunteered to help them for over a year, despite having done so.

Admins? Or Admin?

I have not been aware of anything like that but will say that any “abolishment” of our users is unacceptable. If you’d like to share what happened, my inbox is open.

@GBKarp

I also feel like the users aren’t really heard within this community. The new Ideas category might change that, but overall, it’s just a Features for topics and events, nothing exactly groundbreaking, and it also limits what a user can suggest.

We can’t fix anything if we don’t start somewhere. We will continue to iterate on this in the near future.

@GBKarp

Finally, there is the deletion of PMs from users. A while ago, I inquired with an admin about something, and he did not reply. When I asked about it again, the PM “disappeared” from my inbox. When I asked about that in another PM, the staff member answered with an answer which was so aggressive that if it was someone else they could’ve been warned. The staff member also closed the new PM, because that’s how discussions with admins work here.

There had to have been an underlying reason for this—we will never delete a message without reason. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding with the message’s meaning.

I kindly ask that you send me a PM detailing this issue so that I can look into it.

@GBKarp

Guess how long it took the WFC mods to actually give a punishment that wasn’t as much as a slap on the wrist? 4 Months. And even after he’d made almost everybody his enemy, he only got a month in suspension time.

@GBKarp

According to the Suspension Chart, the 4th violation of this type of issue would result in a one year ban, but he only got a one month ban after much more than 4 violations, and this long of a ban isn’t even an option in the Suspension Chart.

In this case, a one-month suspension was in accordance with our Suspension Chart (found in this topic) as different violations occurred at various times. I will look into making this clearer.

Regardless, we will not be discussing another user’s suspension.

@GBKarp

I understand there was something in Off-Topic which had to be deleted, however, this wasn’t related to that, it was just about the status of the topic. It feels like the admins were so ashamed of what happened in Off-Topic that they were afraid of keeping anything related to it visible.

Since I was the one who closed and unlisted both the off-topic topic and your topic, I will speak to this.

Off-topic was closed and unlisted because the mental health of one of our users was in jeopardy. I felt that it was in the forum’s best interest to remove the topic from the public eye until I figured out what happened and cleaned it up (I had previously been inactive due to personal issues earlier in the day).

Your topic was closed and unlisted because it would only exemplify the problem (i.e., making other users question what happened). I’m sorry that you disagree with it, but after dealing with these situations in the past, I believed it was best the course of action.

@GBKarp

Secondly, there is the deletion of bios. A while ago, I created a bio which stated my feelings about the community, but since criticism is not allowed, it was deleted. When I readded it, they deleted it as well. I’m currently on the third bio, which is more constructive than the other too, however, I feel like it’s just a matter of waiting until they notice it’s there, and after this topic, it’ll probably be deleted too.

I’m not aware of this happening, but I trust it happened to you. If you choose to PM me regarding my previous points, and fill me on what occurred concerning this, I’d be happy to look into it.

@GBKarp

Staff took care of some of those users recently, but that’s not everyone, and there are still toxic people here. I won’t elaborate further than that.

We don’t review every post in every topic, so it’s a given that we may miss some things. In the future, if you see an issue with a post, flag it. We will take the appropriate action from there.

@GBKarp

Less strict mods regarding criticism but also not reluctant to banning people.

The latter has been number one on my list forever. I’ve since talked to Zac about letting moderators suspend people if necessary without a prior discussion.

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The WFC is meant to be an enjoyable, fun, and relaxing space for all. We are not thrilled with how it’s been lately, and we are destined to change that.

Having said that, we do ask that you all understand the drawbacks of making split-second decisions. It’s not easy to manage a forum, especially when all hell breaks loose at times where our team isn’t around to manage it.

We will continue to share updates as they come. Thanks again for sharing, GB; we appreciate your help in making the WFC a better place!